I thought so. I am there right now.
This has been a long journey to get here; long-time readers of LFD remember the days when I was quite the shopper, finding deals and great new pieces on a regular basis. Then my weight went up, and up, and up, and up, and my interest in staying current in fashion went down, and down, and down, and down.
It wasn't just the weight gain that killed my interest in shopping and fashion. Another part of it was that I started to realize I had a full closet -- too much closet, really -- and I didn't NEED to buy anymore. If fact, I need to pare it down to the essentials so I could see what I really had. I donated boxes and boxes of clothes, and pretty much stopped buying new clothes. Gwynnie Bee has done an excellent job of keeping my closet fresh and my need for new items fulfilled.
But the last part, the biggest part, was the limited options available for plus-size mature adults with careers in conservative/traditional offices. I've complained before about "fat-girl" necklines, right? It drives me CRAZY -- it is SO HARD to find v-neck or boatneck or collared tops in plus-sizes. All the interesting shaped or print blouses always have this extra-wide round neckline that both goes too deep/wide and shows off too much skin at the chest, and weirdly sits too far back on the neck and shows off a lot of shoulder/back. Fat-girl neck leaves a huge circle of skin showing, and it does not look professional at all. Additionally, usually it is also a loose blouse so it shifts around if you have to, say, wear a name badge clipped to your neckline, or carry a purse on your shoulder. I am forever triple-checking to make sure my bra strap isn't showing (and it often is, dammit).
Examples of fat-girl necklines:
See what I mean? That's not a vee or a scoop or even a boatneck neckline. It's just...there.
My joke whenever I see a fat-girl neckline: "Hey, my HEAD is a normal size. I don't need extra room to get the shirt over it."
The other problem is that finding a fitted top is nearly impossible. I look at the other plus-size women where I work, and we all have the same uniform: billowy blouse that ends past our hips, thus hiding any type of curve or shape we might have, and making us look bigger than we are. Or worse, the dreaded cascading cardigan which pretty much does the same thing. Everything is draped around us, like tenting on a wedding table. Like so:
You wouldn't know cascading/boyfriend cardigans went out of vogue a few seasons ago from looking at any plus-size department. It's all about hiding our shape -- which is actually MORE unflattering than wearing something too tight, in my opinion.
On the internet, if you want plus-size fitted, the only option I see are dresses. Gwynnie Bee has a weekly Members Post of their clients in mostly dresses, and it is all the same va-va-va-voom look; the girls all look lovely and shapely, but they are ALL in their 20s/30s, and none of it would be appropriate for a conservative office. On a personal note, dresses are no longer an option for me since my feet require orthopedic shoes now. I'm still struggling to find a pair I can wear with dresses -- heck, I still need a dressy pair to go with slacks. (That's another post for another day.)
So. I've been trapped in fashion-less hell -- black slacks, black sneakers (kill me now), billowy top or a long cardigan to hide under. On the most depressing days, it is the ubiquitous black cascading cardigan along with the black pants and shoes. I can't tell you how many plus-sized co-workers I have who wear the same thing -- and in some cases it's the same black cascading cardigan every single day. At my peak, I owned three myself.
And I get why; it's not about low self-esteem or not feeling like you are worth spending money on. I have spent a damn lot of money, and a damned lot of time shopping online and in person. But finding flattering, work-appropriate clothes in a size higher than XXL is a Herculean task, and after a while, you just get too discouraged to keep trying. So you stick with your limited choices, and you focus on other things.
Things I did while not giving a crap about my outfits:
-Enjoyed the freedom in the morning from having to try on multiple outfits, and spent it cuddling with my puppy instead.
-Replenished my makeup supply, and finally learned how to use primer and tinted moisturizer to even out my skin tone.
-Spent 6 months in physical therapy healing my fallen arches, and learned to love my sneakers.
-Played a lot of internet games. A LOT.
-Had occasional flashes of Fun Clothes when a good piece from Gwynnie Bee arrived. But most of their stuff has been filler for under the cardigan, which was okay by me.
Eventually, though, all that black was just too much, and it was time to do something about it. But that's for Part 2. ;-D









When I am the size I am right now, I hate my clothes. Every single thing. I refuse to invest a lot of money in them so I buy just enough to get by which means I rotate the same 7-8 outfits all the time. Yeah, I get it!
ReplyDeleteYou should do a search for Orthaheel shoes. I started wearing their flip-flops and slippers two years ago when I fractured my foot and had the torn plantar tendon. I like the support they give so I've kept up wearing them. They actually do have some really cute flats and slip-ons as well. Look them up!
Oh, I love the Vionic/Orthaheel brand! I have several pairs of flipflops and sandals from them. But that's too casual and too open-toed for working in the hospital, so I am currently on the hunt for a stable, high-arch oxford type shoe.
DeleteI did order a bunch of Orthaheel dress shoes too, but none had the right stability. My therapist taught me how to look at my ankles when I am trying on shoes -- if it is leaning in too much, then it's not stable enough. She's been 100% correct -- when I have overlooked that and bought the shoe anyway, I have been in all kinds of pain afterward. So frustrating!
Have you ever thought about buying a pair of their orthotic inserts and trying them in shoes you already have? Reviewers say they are as good as custom orthotics (which are quite expensive!).
DeleteYep, that's my next step to try -- if I can find a stable and attractive oxford, then I will use my orthotic for the arch support.
DeleteMy sympathy for the difficulty in finding nice clothes. I've heard many others lament the same thing. I don't know why manufacturers ignore a huge market; it's economically irratioinal.
ReplyDeleteI know, it seems like such a waste, doesn't it? But I did read a few articles explaining why designers avoid it -- it's actually because plus-size women are plus-sized in very different ways, and hold their weight in different parts of their bodies. So they have to design more variety in styles and that isn't seen as economical. I kind of get that, but having to live with the options left is still frustrating.
DeleteI love this post and you are SO RIGHT about that awful neckline. Not flattering at all. I'm sorry you can't wear all of your super cute shoes - you inspired me to actually try and be a little more fashionable with my shoes. I have dumb feet issues now, too - frustrating to be so limited with what's out there. I did buy a pair of Altrex sandals this summer that are really comfortable, and I noticed that my shoe store also carries Altrex orthotic inserts, so that might help if you find a good oxford.
ReplyDeleteI'm slowly putting together a new shoe closet for myself -- sandals are actually easier to find cute and orthopedic than dress shoes are. Or maybe that's just the season? I'll post on my travails with that soon too!
Delete(And YES thank you for agreeing about the neckline. It's all I can see when I am shopping.)
I absolutely adore Barking Dogs -- I started buying shoes from her recommendations even before I had foot problems.
ReplyDeleteExcellent point about the lack of style too. Unless your style is Sexy Mama who likes Studs/Lace, you are out of luck. And YES -- the difference when you go down just one size is astonishing. That's the topic of Part 2! :)
This was an interesting post. I learned some things!
ReplyDeleteAnd this shoe & foot talk is interesting; Ima search the brands ya'll are talking about. My feet have carried me around for quite a few years now, & just recently they are getting louder & more demanding in their request for more comfy shoes.
Kristen, have you worn Danskos? They are my most comfy shoes.
Chrissy
I've found that Talbots does a decent job with their necklines and with producing work-appropriate clothing. Sometimes their stuff is a tad preppy, but I'd rather that than too sparkly.
ReplyDeleteKristin I get you on the dreaded "fat neck" on plus size tops - I find Lands end has the biggest variety that are conservative work appropriate - and their sale prices are usually awesome!! - and I'll second the recommendation for Danskos - granted they take a bit of getting used to when you've got BIG feet like I do - but the support is fabulous and they work surprisingly well with dress pants!!
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.onlineshoes.com/womens-dansko-olive-blue-snake-nubuck-p_id341478
You are so right about necklines and the general UGLINESS of plus-sized clothing. So depressing. My solution has been sewing! I realize it's not an option for everyone, but things have come a long way since the old home-ec days. I only have basic skills; even so I'm finding that I'm able to have things I want, look professional, and be a little creative as well. Now, to check out these shoe suggestons...
ReplyDeleteI was going to comment on this a while back but then went on vacation and got distracted. Wanted to say that this was one of your best posts. The fat girl neckline thing had me laughing so hard.
ReplyDeleteRegarding cardigans, I have found cropped cardigans to be excellent structure-adders to outfits. They are particularly useful over sleeveless dresses and to tame too-large dresses from Gwynnie Bee that I don't want to return without wearing because I am cheap. I have black, white, coral, beige, and blue and use them all the time.
I have never had fallen arches, but I do have really flat feet and find the inserts in a lot of shoes uncomfortable. Lifestrides brand (Macys.com, Zappos.com, etc.) are pretty comfy, and one of the ones that fit me well at the instep - they also tend to have nice, thick, no-skid rubber soles and lots of cute flats. You might also try a "bikers" style sneakers (Sketchers makes several versions) - they are still a sneaker, but they're a kind of sporty lightweight sneaker that isn't quite as awful with work clothes (I have a set with laces, and another in the "Mary Jane" style with the zig-zag straps: http://www.zappos.com/skechers-bikers-step-up-black)
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